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Subject: re : lo with discourse scope
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From: "G. Dyke" <gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch>
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> "An/This Englishman walks into an Irish pub. He goes up to the bar and..."
>
> Which Englishman?
> It doesn't matter -- any old Englishman.
> So not {le glico} then?
> No.
> So {lo glico}?
> Well, no, because its quantifier should bind only what is within its
scope,
> yet throughout the rest of the joke, "he" and "le glico" refer back to the
> Englishman.
> So what we need is a way to indicate an existential quantifier that has
scope
> over an entire text?
> Yes.
> And how do we do that?
> I've no idea. I'll ask The List.
>
> --And.
>
I think I'd use {lo'e} here... (Or le'e if I wanted to be influenced by the
ma'oste), I'd then "call" him back with {gy}

GD


