From araizen@newmail.net Sat Nov 03 12:09:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 3 Nov 2001 20:09:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 7534 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2001 20:09:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Nov 2001 20:09:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO out.newmail.net) (212.150.54.158) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2001 20:09:35 -0000 Received: from default ([62.0.180.217]) by out.newmail.net ; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 20:22:02 +0200 Message-ID: <020f01c16502$d85b8120$d9b4003e@default> To: , "Jorge Llambias" References: Subject: Re: [lojban] a construal of lo'e & le'e Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 07:19:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 From: "Adam Raizen" X-Yahoo-Profile: araizen la xorxes. cusku di'e > la adam cusku di'e > > >la .and. cusku di'e > > > > > I gave the example as false statement, in contrast to {re da kanla > > > lo'e remna}, which is true. > > > >Really? Which two things? Are they both a "lo'e kanla"? I assume that > >the "archetypal" human (or whatever lo'e turns out to mean) must > >have "archetypal" eyes. (He certainly can't have real eyes.) But his > >two eyes can't be the same "archetypal" eye. Could his two eyes be re > >lo'e kanla? > > {re lo'e kanla} doesn't make sense, there is only one {lo'e kanla}. > > The easy way out is to say {lo'e remna cu relyselkanla}. But even so you can expand the veljvo somehow, can't you? > Otherwise I think you have to say: > > lo'e kanla reroi kanla lo'e remna > The Eye eyes the Human twice. But this is because lo'e zunle kanla paroi kanla lo'e remna and lo'e pritu kanla paroi kanla lo'e remna and lo'e zunle kanla cu me lo'e kanla and lo'e pritu kanla cu me lo'e kanla, but lo'e zunle kanla na du lo'e pritu kanla, so there must be more than one lo'e kanla. mu'o mi'e .adam.