From rob@twcny.rr.com Sun Nov 04 12:47:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 4 Nov 2001 20:47:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 73530 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2001 20:47:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Nov 2001 20:47:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout5.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.122) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Nov 2001 20:47:25 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-1 [24.92.226.139]) by mailout5.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with ESMTP id fA4KlMh13618 for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:47:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from riff ([24.92.246.4]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:47:20 -0500 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 160UA3-0000NG-00 for ; Sun, 04 Nov 2001 15:46:31 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 15:46:31 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: pa lo badna and the Goatleg Rule Message-ID: <20011104154631.B1206@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer X-Yahoo-Profile: squeekybobo On Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 08:26:09PM -0000, And Rosta wrote: > pc: > > a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com writes: > > > > . I call it the Goatleg Rule. "At least 1" is "su'o pa". > > "Pa" on its own is "exactly 1, and no more". > > > > Why Goatleg rule? > > Because I first found out about it when John explained that > "ro -goat se tuple re da" is false (even restricting goats > to those with 4 legs). To me this rule is a perennial Gotcha > (that which catches one out when one isn't being careful). This doesn't sound right. This may happen with {da}, but doesn't {pa lo} mean "one of..." and allow that there may be others? If you say {mi viska pa lo badna}, are you saying that that is the only banana you see? The only banana you will ever see? How would you fix this while still only focusing on one banana? -- la rab.spir noi viska no gumri