From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Mon Nov 05 07:28:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 5 Nov 2001 15:28:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 94944 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2001 15:28:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Nov 2001 15:28:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Nov 2001 15:28:02 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Mon, 5 Nov 2001 15:04:25 +0000 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 15:39:37 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2001 15:39:10 +0000 To: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] only in subordinate clauses Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin 1. Every x such that it is known that the smallpox virus exists in=20 laboratories in x is in the set {USA, Russia}. 2. It is known that every x such that the smallpox virus exists in=20 laboratories in x is in the set {USA, Russia}. --And. >>> Pierre Abbat 11/05/01 12:47pm >>> I found the following sentences while reading the news: The smallpox virus is known to exist only in laboratories in the United=20 States and Russia. But germ warfare experts suspect that other countries,=20 including North Korea and Iraq, may have secretly obtained stocks. The first sentence is ambiguous, and without the second I would interpret i= t=20 as "It is known that the smallpox virus exists only in laboratories in the= =20 United States and Russia." {le vidrnvariola te djuno le du'u zvati le skebriju [?] be ne'i la jonsi'u= =20 jecta .e la rukygug po'o} Is that similarly ambiguous? Are there better ways of saying it? phma To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com=20 Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/=20