From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Nov 07 05:46:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 7 Nov 2001 13:46:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 50967 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2001 13:46:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Nov 2001 13:46:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.135) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Nov 2001 13:46:04 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 7 Nov 2001 05:46:04 -0800 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 07 Nov 2001 13:46:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Some comments on Jorge's & And's bits of le spofu fonxa 3moi Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 13:46:04 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2001 13:46:04.0411 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B5D2CB0:01C16792] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la and cusku di'e >Poe: My _manner_ had convinced them. >Xor: le mi se tarti ba'o birtygau py >And: My conduct had been verified by them. > >"le mi se tarti" is not that great a rendering of "_manner_"; >there should be a "ba'e" in there, and "se tarti" doesn't >quite mean "manner" (i.e. not what you do but how you do >it). Agreed about the {ba'e}. The gi'uste suggests that the x2 of {tarti} is the manner ("x1 behaves/conducts oneself as/in-manner x2"), so {se zukte} would be what you do, and {se tarti} how you do it. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp