Subject: Re: [lojban] Some comments on Jorge's & And's bits of le spofu fonxa 3moi

From: And Rosta <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2001 16:15:00 +0000

>>> Jorge Llambias <[email-masked]> 11/07/01 01:46pm >>>
#la and cusku di'e
#>Poe: My _manner_ had convinced them.
#>Xor: le mi se tarti ba'o birtygau py
#>And: My conduct had been verified by them.
#>
#>"le mi se tarti" is not that great a rendering of "_manner_";
#>there should be a "ba'e" in there, and "se tarti" doesn't
#>quite mean "manner" (i.e. not what you do but how you do
#>it).
#
#Agreed about the {ba'e}. The gi'uste suggests that the x2 of
#{tarti} is the manner ("x1 behaves/conducts oneself as/in-manner x2"),
#so {se zukte} would be what you do, and {se tarti} how you do it.

You're right. Se zukte and se gasnu. "Se tarti" = demeanour, which is
what Poe's "manner" meant. For the manner of a se zukte/se gasnu,
I guess you'd use a lujvo. 

So at any rate, my "My conduct had been verified by them" was a pretty
dire translation, and "My demeanour had convinced them" would have
been much better.

--And.