From gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Thu Nov 08 11:10:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 8 Nov 2001 19:10:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 87106 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2001 19:10:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Nov 2001 19:10:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta9n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.215) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2001 19:10:09 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (62.202.44.30) by mta9n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.0.032) id 3BEA41070003D2F2 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:09:50 +0100 Message-ID: <004901c16888$c4bc4bc0$1e2cca3e@oemcomputer> To: Subject: re: Werfel Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 20:08:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke cu'u la .aulun. -- .ije la le,onidas. goi ko'a nalkaknysku kamkli djuno le du'u cale cabdei pu te friti lenu terckape sidju ko'a kei tai lo pevmanku .e lo xablau .e lo nalsatci pe ro lo'e nunfriti .i djuno le du'u ko'a pu fliba ti .i djuno le du'u na ba nunfriti remoi (to fi'e la frants.verfel. toi) ... weiß Leonidas mit unaussprechlicher Klarheit, dass heute ein Angebot zur Rettung an ihn ergangen ist, dunkel, halblaut, unbestimmt, wie alle Angebote dieser Art. Er weiß, dass er daran gescheitert ist. Er weiß, dass ein neues Angebot nicht wieder erfolgen wird. (Franz Werfel) -- I would have had: cusku na'e kakne (I base this on lujvo like ***gau) lo'e du'u remove all {pu}s replace the tai by noi (and put brivla accordingly) - not least because I can't figuere out whether {lo} is correct remove the pev: there is no non-figurative way in which an offer can be dark add the relative clause joiner remove the ro lo'e and put le'e/lo'e (I favour le'e it seems to encompass the "dieser Art") na ba za'uroi nunfriti But there was little wrong with the original, apart from the lujvo Greg -- "I have a proposal for the international community: help us build an execution block ; then we will be able to use our stadium for playing football" *the afghani foreign minister*