From jcowan@reutershealth.com Wed Nov 14 06:36:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 14 Nov 2001 14:36:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 86564 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2001 14:36:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2001 14:36:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2001 14:36:31 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA19045 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:37:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3BF281E2.7000009@reutershealth.com> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 09:38:26 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011012 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Why is there so much irregularity in cmavo/gismu? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan Craig wrote: > Imagiine that prior to reading the Book, Jimbob learns about selma'o. So he > asks me, "What selma'o is .ui in?" I tell him, "UI." He asks what UIs do, > and I say that all but one of them show emotions, Actually not. UI1's express emotions (and UI4's and UI5's classify them), but UI2's express the source of evidence, and UI3's provide discourse control. The remaining UI cmavo include not only your bugaboo xu but also ki'a (non-emotional), ge'e (unexpressed emotion), and bu'o (emotional/discursive contour). kau and pau also fit in this category, IMHO, though they are listed as UI3 in the cmaste. > "That's stoopid. Why are they in the same class, when the only > similarity is where you can put them?" "The whole point of classes is that if two cmavo are in the same class, they can be put in the same place." -- Not to perambulate || John Cowan the corridors || http://www.reutershealth.com during the hours of repose || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in the boots of ascension. \\ Sign in Austrian ski-resort hotel