From xod@sixgirls.org Wed Nov 14 10:17:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 14 Nov 2001 18:17:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 12965 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2001 18:17:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Nov 2001 18:17:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (216.27.131.50) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2001 18:17:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fAEIHcH18362 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:17:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 13:17:37 -0500 (EST) To: lojban Subject: Re: ka'e (was: Re: [lojban] Introduction, and zutse/se sutse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, And Rosta wrote: > >>> Invent Yourself 11/14/01 05:39pm >>> > #On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, And Rosta wrote: > #> >>> Invent Yourself 11/14/01 05:21pm >>> > #> #On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, And Rosta wrote: > #> #> 2. The "innately capable of" is open to the objection raised by Jorge -- > #> #> that it wrongly privileges one sumti. > #> # > #> #Not so fast. Which sumti is wrongly privileged in "ka'e klama da"? > #> > #> The goer. I assume on the basis of canonical examples that it is the > #> goer that is innately capable of going somewhere. > # > #.ienai .i le selkla po'o cu selsnu > > Not really. Ignoring the ka'e, your sentence says "you-know-what > goes somewhere from you-know-where via you-know-where...". pe'i le drata tergismu cu selnibli jena selsnu > #.i ku'i le mulno ckini cu cumki > #.i ko lanli "mi pu klama" .i le mulno ckini cu purci > > This is correct. ka'e should be similar, hence the objection to > "innately capable". .ie .i pe'i na fancu zo pu (noi zo ka'e pagbu ke'a ku'o) le bridi -- I hope they confuse the two and toss away the lit flare while holding the lit dynamite stick as a statue of Liberty Torch. That would make my day- for at least a 1/4 hour. -- Fernando