From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Mon Nov 19 13:13:02 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 19 Nov 2001 21:13:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 38323 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 21:13:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Nov 2001 21:13:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n1.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.51) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 21:13:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.68] by n1.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2001 21:13:01 -0000 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:12:59 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: i want my brain cells back! Message-ID: <9tbskr+s9kf@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 2303 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 149.225.4.180 From: "A.W.T." X-Yahoo-Profile: aolung --- In lojban@y..., And Rosta wrote: > #>>> 11/19/01 06:45am >>> > #i want my brain cells back! > > I sympathize. I've always disliked learning other languages because it really does feel as though one's brain is being clogged up -- as if the knowledge > is using limited disk quota, as it were. As for me, I disagree: you just have let the new language come in slowly (finally getting the special taste of each word - i.e. having a specific "picture" when thinking/pronouncing it. (tatelebn, farvos hayst men "lokshn" lokshn? - They look like lokshn, smell like lokshn, taste like lokshn... No, farvos zol men zey nisht haysn lokshn?!) > I've never made any effort to learn Lojban words. I've picked a lot up > without trying, and that feels natural, as if it imposes no load on my > memory. It's the same with Italian: I've tried studying it a couple of > times over the years, but given up after an hour for the reasons I've > described, but I picked a lot up from exposure, and that seems effortless. So did I with Lojban: which came into my mind softly (somehow reminding me of the Chinese vocabulary) was okay - other words didn't. I'm having most problems with great deal of cmavo. It's not my intention to get fluent with Lojban (because I'm not interested enough in this aspect. I like it as a means of controlling thinking. Shame on you with regard to Italian ;-) a beautiful and very easy language, to which i was really dedicated during my boyhood and adolescence - but it's too old a love for still giving me thrills :( > I can't see how Lojban is more irregular than English, even though I > agree with you that if certain cmavo are supposed to correspond to > certain gismu then it would have been better to tweak the gismu to > make the correspondence regular. Regarding a conlang, I'd wish a still more straightforward vocabulary concept, e.g. like that of Ro (I was quite impressed by it!) > Anyway, you won't find a better logical language than Lojban anywhere. > Yes it's imperfect, and yes it could be improved, but it's worth staying > involved with it because there's no better alternative. But tinkit shouldn't be wailing for his brain cells - hoping he's still a few left! mu'omi'e .aulun. http://www.fa-kuan.muc.de/WERFEL.RXML