From a.rosta@ntlworld.com Fri Nov 23 12:24:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@ntlworld.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 23 Nov 2001 20:24:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 10488 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 20:24:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Nov 2001 20:24:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta07-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.47) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 20:24:42 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.253.91.171]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.13 201-229-121-113) with SMTP id <20011118030735.KSFX9742.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:07:35 +0000 To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Subject: stress, capitalization & audiovisual isomorphism Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:06:44 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin >From time to time, Lojbab has made a big song and dance about how audiovisual isomorphism is a requisite property of a Lojban orthography. It recently struck me, though, that the failure to represent stress orthographically is a violation of audiovisual isomorphism and that Lojban purists should therefore consistently capitalize every stressed syllable. (NB Remember that an unambiguous orthography is not necessarily an audiovisually isomorphic one.) The result would look disgusting, but if the AVI requirement is suspended in this instance then AVI violation would not be a legitimate objection to other orthographies that, for instance, get rid of the apostrophe. --And.