From rob@twcny.rr.com Fri Nov 23 14:05:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 23 Nov 2001 22:05:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 42262 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 22:05:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Nov 2001 22:05:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout5.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.169) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 22:05:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-1 [24.92.226.139]) by mailout5.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with ESMTP id fANM5sj28357 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:05:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from riff ([24.92.246.4]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:05:54 -0500 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 167ORT-0000LB-00 for ; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:05:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 17:05:03 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] presentation of lojban Message-ID: <20011123170503.A1304@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com References: <144.51a303b.293019eb@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <144.51a303b.293019eb@aol.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer X-Yahoo-Profile: squeekybobo On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 04:30:19PM -0500, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > I would downplay our > community -- by the time it was 45, Esperanto had several million relatively > competent speakers and a library of several hundred (perhaps thousand) books; > even if you put Lojbans age at 10 or so, Esperanto -- with only the > international snail mail of the end of the 19th century -- had many times our > number of competent speakers and dozens of books. On that end, I think we need either an update of lojban.org or a new site that we can point people interested in Lojban to - someone coming across the web page now would get the impression that nothing has been done with the language for a year, and if they persist in being interested, they're directed to various aging web sites and old texts. It's a wonder anyone at all shows up on lojban-beginners, because I haven't seen it publicized _anywhere_. If we had a way to show people where stuff is going on - the text repository on digitalkingdom, the IRC channels, the "Lojban for Beginners" draft, the Wiki, and of course the mailing lists - I think we could increase the size of the community drastically. -- la rab.spir noi sarji la lojban