From ragnarok@pobox.com Fri Nov 23 22:25:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 24 Nov 2001 06:25:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 96536 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2001 06:25:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2001 06:25:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2001 06:25:37 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.98] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id AD87287300AE; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 01:26:15 -0500 Reply-To: To: Subject: RE: [lojban] presentation of lojban Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:30:50 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <144.51a303b.293019eb@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl >our community -- by the time it was 45, Esperanto had several million relatively competent speakers and a library of several hundred >(perhaps thousand) books; even if you put Lojbans age at 10 or so, Esperanto -- with only the international snail mail of the end of the >19th century -- had many times our number of competent speakers and dozens of books. Of course, Esperanto is a pretty simple and >uninformative langauge and so SAE as to make learning and translation easy for other SAEs. Did it have any novels written originally in Esperanto, or just translations (cf laopi pelxu ku'o trajynobli)? Did it have a significant body of poetry (cf ziryroi)? Did it have its own aphorisms? Did it have its own music (cf http://nuzban.wiw.org/wiki/index.php?Lojban%20Rock%20Lyrics)? Did it have any practical applications aside from as an interlanguage (Lojban has several, and I hear that one has even been proposed)? Did it have any linguistic thought put into it, or just a random guy making up root words (And tinkit, you'd better not show up to harass us with any snide comments about this zo'ocai)? Did anyone speak it outside of the (formerly Volapükist) language clubs (cf Logfest [with the jboste and the wiki as the analogues of the clubs, IMHO])?