From araizen@newmail.net Sat Nov 24 14:07:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 24 Nov 2001 22:07:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 29128 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2001 22:07:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 24 Nov 2001 22:07:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO enigma.barak.net.il) (212.150.48.99) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2001 22:07:39 -0000 Received: from out.newmail.net ([10.10.11.11]) by enigma.barak.net.il (InterMail vK.4.03.00.00 201-232-121 license 5444ddd44659357c6c93343e0ce38507) with SMTP id <20011124220813.OFIO482.enigma@out.newmail.net> for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:08:13 +0200 Received: from default ([62.0.180.10]) by out.newmail.net ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:07:40 +0200 Message-ID: <000b01c1759a$95619be0$0ab4003e@default> To: References: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Even simple texts are difficult Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 10:18:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 From: "Adam Raizen" X-Yahoo-Profile: araizen la xorxes. cusku di'e > {ni'a} is a tense, it can precede a selbri, but {ni'a ckune} > does not mean "x1 is under a connifer". It means "x1 is a > connifer under something". "x1 is a connifer under the speaker" > Also, modals, like all tags, can > precede a selbri as well as a sumti. When preceding a selbri, > the effect is usually the same as preceding a sumti which is > understood from context (the glaring exceptions to this being > ba'o and pu'o). Much of the time, that sumti is necessarily the speaker. mu'o mi'e .adam.