From gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch Sun Nov 25 11:03:31 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: gordon.dyke@bluewin.ch X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 25 Nov 2001 19:03:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 46689 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2001 19:03:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Nov 2001 19:03:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta2n.bluewin.ch) (195.186.1.211) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Nov 2001 19:03:31 -0000 Received: from oemcomputer (62.202.50.234) by mta2n.bluewin.ch (Bluewin AG 6.0.032) id 3C00D8A600017047 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:03:10 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c175e3$9cf34860$ea32ca3e@oemcomputer> To: Subject: lo'e and NAhEBO Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:00:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 From: "G. Dyke" X-Yahoo-Profile: gregvdyke coi rodo again I'm asking a question about lo'e: let's say that the concept expressed by lo'e/le'e broda is that of the mode of a set and call it "typical." is lo'e/le'e broda "one or more of all the things that are typical brode"/ "all of the at least one thing I'm calling a typical brode"? so lo'e ropno bangu = English or French or German or Spanish (or Italian) and le'e ropno bangu = SAE or is lo'e broda "the typical member of the set of the things that actually are broda"? the latter conforms (I think) with the idea of the mode of lo'i broda, but the former makes more sense my apologies if you feel I could have read through the posts of a couple of weeks back and got my answer My second question: why is it that the refgram makes a big deal of NAhEBO (It certainly made a big impression on me) but it is almost never used. Am I wrong in thinking that na'ebo le broda is the same as le na'e broda? -- http://www.myepfl.ch/gregory.dyke .i lo'e to'e makcu cu djica lenu tolcumla morsi kei lo telda'a .i lo'e je'a makcu cu go'i to'ebo le se go'i