From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Mon Nov 26 09:35:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 26 Nov 2001 17:35:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 29152 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2001 17:35:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Nov 2001 17:35:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2001 17:35:20 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:11:09 +0000 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:48:54 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:48:33 +0000 To: jcowan Cc: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] lo'e and NAhEBO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin >>> John Cowan 11/26/01 05:13pm >>> #> You're definitely wrong about that. I *think* (without checking refgram)= =20 #> that {na'e bo le broda} =3D {lo na du be le broda}.=20 #Well, sort of, but na'e (with or without bo) always has some kind of i#mplicit scale (which can be made explicit with a sumtcita). Thus #when I say that Fido is a non-horse, I imply that he is some #sort of animal, or perhaps a vehicle if I am thinking of horses #as primarily transportation tools, or even perhaps a tractor. #But if Fido is the concept "Osama bin Laden is in Afghanistan", #I would find it disturbing to be told that la faidos. cu na'e xirma, #since there is no plausible scale even remotely connecting one #with the other. Okay. This wasn't really the point I was thinking about. Change my original statement to: {na'e bo le broda} =3D {lo na'e du be le broda}.=20 --And.