From jcowan@reutershealth.com Mon Nov 26 09:45:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 26 Nov 2001 17:45:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 9606 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2001 17:45:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Nov 2001 17:45:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Nov 2001 17:45:58 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08766; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:46:57 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C02802E.7070703@reutershealth.com> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:47:26 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011012 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loglanists@ucsd.edu, lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] Practical cooperation 1: "is intended to be" References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan Robert J. Chassell wrote (in part): > * designs, > x1 (agent) plans/designs/plots > plan/arrangement/plot/[schematic] x2 > for state/process x3 > /:/ [also invents/organizes; x2 design, scheme; > the structure or layout of an object > would be represented as a state in x3] > /=/ platu (pla) [...] > Given the problem: > > "x1 is intended (or supposed) to be x2 by the intention of x3"? > > this means that > > the x1 is a state or process; this is OK; > the x2 is a plan/arrangement/plot/[schematic]; this is OK, too; > the x3 is an agent, who does the plotting; this is somewhat OK. > > The problem with {terpla} is that the agent is a planner or designer. ** fundai > The proposal is for an entity who *intends*, but who will not > necessarily carry out the intention into an act of being a planner or > designer. Ah. I didn't mean that kind of "intent". I rather meant as in the examples I just posted, not x3 intends to act, but x3 intends x1 to mean/be x2, or x3 intends x1 to be an instance of x2, or x3 intends x1 to be a prototype for x2, or something of the sort. Another example: This message is intended to be posted to two mailing lists by me. -- Not to perambulate || John Cowan the corridors || http://www.reutershealth.com during the hours of repose || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in the boots of ascension. \\ Sign in Austrian ski-resort hotel