From thinkit8@lycos.com Thu Nov 29 04:08:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: thinkit8@lycos.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 29 Nov 2001 12:08:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 47610 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2001 12:08:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Nov 2001 12:08:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n14.groups.yahoo.com) (216.115.96.64) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Nov 2001 12:08:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: thinkit8@lycos.com Received: from [10.1.10.31] by n14.groups.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Nov 2001 12:09:29 -0000 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:08:08 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: To clarify... Message-ID: <9u58f8+qtt0@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 989 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.5.121.32 From: thinkit8@lycos.com X-Yahoo-Profile: thinkit41 I no longer intend to speak in lojban. I think the grammar is beautiful and very interesting, but the words themselves are unsatisfactory (both in form, and what was chosen to be a gismu). I remain in the lojban community to discuss the grammar as well as offer suggestions into how the words could be better done (not just pointing out why they are unsatisfactory). I now regard lojban as a decimal language capable of expressing hexadecimal. I never should have declared it as hexadecimal. The clearest indication of this is the change in form of the cmavo from the last decimal digit to the next digit. Even if the community decided it to be hexadecimal, the irregularity of the number words would make it unsatisfactory. Jay has a right to do whatever he wants with his wiki, just as lojbab (who I think owns this list) has a right to do whatever he wants to keep the conversation useful here. But it is only through a community that these things are interesting.