From cowan@ccil.org Thu Nov 29 20:26:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 30 Nov 2001 04:26:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 69793 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2001 04:26:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Nov 2001 04:26:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2001 04:26:40 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 169fGG-00031Y-00 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:26:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [lojban] To clarify... In-Reply-To: from And Rosta at "Nov 30, 2001 02:14:59 am" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 23:26:52 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan And Rosta scripsit: > It's interesting that there is such near-unanimity (among those > who care about design issues) that the morphology is a disaster > and that shorter gismu and no rafsi would have been a much better > solution. I at least don't agree. All alternative morphologies known to me abandon either self-segregating words or self-segregating morphemes, usually at the expense of making everything isolating and abandoning the tanru/lujvo distinction, which IMHO is essential to Loglan. The only exception is Nora's idea of reserving a vowel for "end of brivla". I experimented with a variant of this in my conlang xuxuxi, where there is vowel harmony in all syllables except the last, which is "antiharmonic". Anyway, if you want Gua\spi, you know where to find it. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org Please leave your values | Check your assumptions. In fact, at the front desk. | check your assumptions at the door. --sign in Paris hotel | --Miles Vorkosigan