From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Nov 30 16:34:37 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 1 Dec 2001 00:34:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 49539 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2001 00:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Dec 2001 00:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Dec 2001 00:34:36 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (43.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.43]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fB10YZT53511 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:34:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011130144815.04e103f0@pop.cais.com> X-Sender: vir1036@pop.cais.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:52:33 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] To clarify... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 11:54 AM 11/30/01 -0500, pycyn@aol.com wrote: > Of these, only the derivation factor seems at all negotiable, since its > purpose, easy learning, has not proven itself in the field (subjectively > most people report little help from the connections -- but this is almost > entirely from English speakers, others would be useful to hear from -- > and the very limited test that was run by someone somewhen -- again just > for English -- suggested that the connected words were not easier to > learn than randomly constructed words (does anyone remember details of > this test? could someone repeat it?)). We have LogFlash data from a half dozen or so users that has not yet been statistically analyzed, but which will presumably tell us whether or not the subjective impression is real. Someday ... JCB claimed way back when that he tried various forms of gismu recognition algorithms on his classes (at U of FL?) and the given algorithm was found most useful. But this was surely only native English speakers, and in any event he did not document the research for peer review. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org