From b.gohla@gmx.de Sun Dec 02 23:51:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: b.gohla@gmx.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_0_1); 3 Dec 2001 07:51:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 85782 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2001 07:51:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Dec 2001 07:51:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.gmx.net) (213.165.64.20) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Dec 2001 07:51:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 7276 invoked by uid 0); 3 Dec 2001 07:51:16 -0000 Received: from b7a26.pppool.de (HELO linux) (213.7.122.38) by mail.gmx.net (mp002-rz3) with SMTP; 3 Dec 2001 07:51:16 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Reply-To: b.gohla@gmx.de To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] software for the mac (was: The end of the wiki) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 09:57:46 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01120309574603.01036@linux> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?utf-8?q?Bj=C3=B6rn=20Gohla?= X-Yahoo-Profile: badbirdde -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 29 November 2001 21:02, Jay Kominek wrote: > On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Steven Belknap wrote: > > I post infrequently to the list because we have 3 children, aged 1,3,4. > > The time I formerly spent posting or playing with lojban, I now spend > > with them. I do read the list (almost) daily. I am hoping to teach my > > children the language. On this point, what is the latest with Macintosh > > software for learning lojban? I am now using MacOSX, which is a UNIX > > based operating system, and I wondered if anybody could translate some > > of the UNIX based lojban learning tools to the new Macintosh operating > > system. > > The only UNIX-based tool I know of is jbofi'e. > > A friend of mine has an OSX laptop. I'll see what I can do about compilin= g > jbofi'e for it. Really, though, it should be a very straight-forward > process. (Maybe I'll fiddle around with making a GUI. OSX's development > tools make me drool.) > > If anyone wants to buy me an OSX system, I'll be happy to develop any > Lojban software they'd like for it. :) err, well, not to disturb you, but there is gnustep (http://www.gnustep.org= )=20 which aims at being an open source implementation of the openstep api (it=20 runs on unix-like systems and even cygwin, though there is so far no native= =20 gui on windows). it is not perfect yet, but quite usable. most importantly,= =20 as i announced a while ago on this list, there is the Popup.app vocab tool= =20 (http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~bjoern/Popup/) being written by me. it can= =20 extract the lojban vocabulary from a marked text selection via cmafi'e and= =20 then query the user for them by displaying a word in one language and=20 offering a fixed number of choices in the other language which is selected= =20 simply by clicking on it. i plan to add sound and pictures later which woul= d=20 make it more attractive and useful to children as well. i am not sure if it= =20 compiles on macosx out of the box but an able osx programmer could probably= =20 port it single handed. - --=20 - -------------------- la lojban cu xamgu bangu .i ko viska la'o url. http://www.lojban.org .url=20 pub 1024D/834F4976 2001-01-07 Bj=C3=B6rn Gohla (Wissenschaftler, Weltb=C3= =BCrger)=20 Key fingerprint =3D 9FF4 FEDA CCDF DA0E 14D5 8129 6C14 3C39 834F 4976 sub 1024g/29571FE2 2001-01-07 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Cz6PbBQ8OYNPSXYRAp4AAJ9fggR5WL5mtoyFfELQG1zJQtmG+ACgsfGN dbbOdy98zmifiIgCEHjXSq8=3D =3Dtm98 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----