From pycyn@aol.com Tue Dec 04 19:09:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 5 Dec 2001 03:09:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 79085 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 03:09:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m5.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Dec 2001 03:09:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m08.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.163) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Dec 2001 03:09:57 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id r.174.351f23 (4322) for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:09:55 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <174.351f23.293eea03@aol.com> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:09:55 EST Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: thoughts on numerical language To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_174.351f23.293eea03_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2455001 X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra --part1_174.351f23.293eea03_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/4/2001 8:52:28 PM Central Standard Time, thinkit8@lycos.com writes: > I'd think of it as a superset. If you define something numerically, > you can do both the language stuff, and the illustration, which is > not a "linguistic description". Sure you can do that now, but you > get rough boundries between them. A rough example is binary > encoding in newsgroup texts...it's a hack at best. > Your binary code as a superset of a language. Not quite, since it does not now contain the language as a part, only a code for it. Again, you are being remarkably opaque in what you are talking about. Do you mean a language or do you mean a code. If you mean a language, then the pictures have no place in it; if you meqn a code, then the linguistic stuff you've been throwing around have no place. Apparently. A set of principles seems called for. What are you talking about? What goals do you have in mind? How does your numerical whatzit proceed toward those goals? What is a numerical language? This looks like material for LoCCan3 -- except for its negligible connection with Lojban/Loglan. --part1_174.351f23.293eea03_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/4/2001 8:52:28 PM Central Standard Time, thinkit8@lycos.com writes:


I'd think of it as a superset.  If you define something numerically,
you can do both the language stuff, and the illustration, which is
not a "linguistic description".  Sure you can do that now, but you
get rough boundries between them.  A rough example is binary
encoding in newsgroup texts...it's a hack at best.


Your binary code as a superset of a language.  Not quite, since it does not now contain the language as a part, only a code for it.  Again, you are being remarkably opaque in what you are talking about.  Do you mean a language or do you mean a code.  If you mean a language, then the pictures have no place in it; if you meqn a code, then the linguistic stuff you've been throwing around have no place.  Apparently.
A set of principles seems called for.  What are you talking about?  What goals do you have in mind? How does your numerical whatzit proceed toward those goals?
What is a numerical language?

This looks like material for LoCCan3 -- except for its negligible connection with Lojban/Loglan. --part1_174.351f23.293eea03_boundary--