From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Thu Dec 06 10:29:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 6 Dec 2001 18:29:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 57736 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2001 18:29:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2001 18:29:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 18:29:03 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16C3Gb-0000RS-00 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 10:29:05 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 10:29:05 -0800 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] [WWWW] Goals for http://www.lojban.org/ (fwd) Message-ID: <20011206182905.GQ6855@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011206054451.00b6bf00@pop.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20011206054451.00b6bf00@pop.cais.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i From: Robin Lee Powell X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=66827819 X-Yahoo-Profile: robinleepowell On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 06:10:46AM -0500, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote: > At 06:10 PM 12/5/01 -0800, you wrote: > >> It rather looks like the right sidebar begins higher than the left > >> one, giving a rather lopsided appearance. > > > >Again, that would be Netscape's fault. If I put a margin setting on > >the right one, it folds over to the left. BTW, netscape ignores my > >requests to remove the picture borders, sorry. > > IE5 also has it looking lopsided. It appears that the left block is > at the same height as the top of the capital L in Lojban. The right > block extends above the final "l" of logical, such that the margin > line around the logo is lined up with the top of that "l". Yes, it looks lopsided in pretty much everything. My point was that I can't *fix* it without breaking Netscape 4 completely. Like, to the point of total unreadability. > Interestingly the problem seems to vary with the width of the window I > am looking at the page with. I had a favorites window on the left, so > that the top line ended with "logical" for the above comment. When I > closed the favorites window, I noticed that the two sidebars are even > more lopsided. Then I reopened the favorites window and it returned > to the original amount of misalignment. Finally I tried widening and > narrowing the favorites window, and doing so smoothly I can see a > couple of places where the left sidebar drops as the view window gets > wider. The biggest drop comes when widening past the point where > wordwrap moves the "has" of "has been built" up to the third line of > the center column text. That's because it's all percentage based. > >> "You email" should of course be "Your email", if not "Your email > >> address". > > > >Done. > > Still looks the same here "You email [many spaces] ad with the hint of > a second d on the edge of the fill in window. Sorry, new versison not uploaded yet. > >> The bullets are all on the outside of the text. That's a neat > >> trick, and I wish I had known how to do that on my version. But > >> since your version has extra space between bullet points anyway, it > >> is not necessary for the bullets to stick out to the side, and you > >> could reclaim some space in the sidebar by having the text wrap > >> below the bullets. > > > >Again, that effect is due to your browser. None of mine do that. > > I think he is referring to the hanging indents in the left sidebar, > which look nice, but have a lot of white space for me. > > I see: > > ----------- > About Lojban > (1 1/2 spaces) > . What is Lojban? (the bullet matches the 'o' of about, the "What" > lines up with "L" of Lojban. > (1 1/2 spaces) > A brief ... > constructed language Lojban > (1 1/2 spaces) > . Why learn > ------- > > and the large amount of space between paragraphs, as well as the > degree of indent makes it look nice but at the expense of chewing up a > lot of white space. The formatting on the two sidebars seems fixed - > when I narrow the window as described above, the two sidebars are > unchanged, but the central window gets narrower and narrower until > sooner or later even the main heading drops below the right sidebar. Yes, that's true; it's because of the pictures: the sidebar can't get less wide than the picture at the top of it. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/