From phma@oltronics.net Thu Dec 06 13:42:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 6 Dec 2001 21:42:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 2570 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2001 21:42:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2001 21:42:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 21:42:46 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 66EB53C4BF; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:42:40 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: le vlatai be lo cmene Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:42:37 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0112061642370I.18860@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=7781868 I'm reading the Lessons and I saw a name {antonis.routc.}. This looks odd to me, as {ou} is not a valid diphthong. vlatai calls {routc} valid, but since {ou} is not a Lojban diphthong, it must be implicitly inserting a comma. I then tried {ryytc}, {raatc}, {ryitc}, and {riytc}. {ryytc} is rejected as "Bad cmene - doesn't break up", but {ry,ytc} is accepted. {ryitc} is rejected with or without the comma. What is going on? vlatai also accepts both {auskalerik} and {euskalerik}. The latter is closer to the native pronunciation AFAIK, but I picked the former because {eu} is not a Lojban diphthong. vlatai also accepts {ckankeu} which is clearly wrong. phma