From jcowan@reutershealth.com Thu Dec 06 14:24:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_2); 6 Dec 2001 22:24:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 68479 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2001 22:24:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Dec 2001 22:24:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 22:24:36 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[10.65.117.21]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08717; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:25:31 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C0FF067.3010904@reutershealth.com> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 17:25:43 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.6) Gecko/20011120 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: phma@oltronics.net Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] le vlatai be lo cmene References: <0112061642370I.18860@neofelis> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=8122456 X-Yahoo-Profile: john_w_cowan Pierre Abbat wrote: > I'm reading the Lessons and I saw a name {antonis.routc.}. This looks odd to > me, as {ou} is not a valid diphthong. vlatai calls {routc} valid, but since > {ou} is not a Lojban diphthong, it must be implicitly inserting a comma. No two words differ solely because of the presence or absence of commas, so "routc" and "ro,utc" are the same word. > > I then tried {ryytc}, {raatc}, {ryitc}, and {riytc}. {ryytc} is rejected as > "Bad cmene - doesn't break up", but {ry,ytc} is accepted. {ryitc} is rejected > with or without the comma. What is going on? Those look like bugs. > vlatai also accepts both {auskalerik} and {euskalerik}. The latter is closer > to the native pronunciation AFAIK, but I picked the former because {eu} is > not a Lojban diphthong. vlatai also accepts {ckankeu} which is clearly wrong. No, it is synonymous with ckanke,u, which can be (but need not be) pronounced ckanke'u. -- Not to perambulate || John Cowan the corridors || http://www.reutershealth.com during the hours of repose || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in the boots of ascension. \\ Sign in Austrian ski-resort hotel