From lojbab@lojban.org Mon Dec 17 17:14:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 18 Dec 2001 01:14:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 5135 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2001 01:14:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Dec 2001 01:14:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2001 01:14:37 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (dynamic202.cl8.cais.net [205.177.20.202]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fBI1EaT13464 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:14:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011217201146.00c278d0@pop.cais.com> X-Sender: vir1036@pop.cais.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 20:13:35 -0500 To: Subject: Re: [lojban] Logical translation request In-Reply-To: <002b01c186c2$f3413980$bdb4003e@default> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab At 06:20 AM 12/17/01 +0000, Adam Raizen wrote: >la xorxes. cusku di'e > > la adam cusku di'e > > >I've sometimes wanted to change the interpretation to how you do >it, > > >but need to be able to say "now", etc. is too important. > > > > I guess that's why {nau} was introduced, though nobody seems > > to be using it. > >Good point. Unfortunately, "nau" seems to have been introduced >specifically for nested quotations, and is in a really bad selma'o. It >should be in something like TAhE, so that it can combine with space >and time tenses. I believe that "nau" was introduced to have a short cut for returning (and possibly resetting with ki) to the default spacetime reference point of here and now. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org