From araizen@newmail.net Sat Dec 22 12:47:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 22 Dec 2001 20:47:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 10143 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2001 20:47:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Dec 2001 20:47:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO enigma.barak.net.il) (212.150.48.99) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2001 20:47:17 -0000 Received: from out.newmail.net ([10.10.11.11]) by enigma.barak.net.il (InterMail vK.4.03.00.00 201-232-121 license 5444ddd44659357c6c93343e0ce38507) with SMTP id <20011222204801.IGNK1225.enigma@out.newmail.net>; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:48:01 +0200 Received: from default ([62.0.181.73]) by out.newmail.net ; Sat, 22 Dec 2001 22:48:05 +0200 Message-ID: <006f01c18b90$4467f660$49b5003e@default> To: "Engelang" , References: <20011222073959.GA1993@twcny.rr.com> Subject: [OT] Re: [lojban] Binary Language Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 08:59:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 From: "Adam Raizen" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3063669 X-Yahoo-Profile: araizen la rab.spir. cusku di'e > [1] HP49 Basic is a programming language for the HP49 calculator which > serves no purpose except to mollify people who want to program the > calculator yet have a morbid fear of Reverse Polish Notation. It is the > same as the calculator's RPN language, except rewritten with functions, > parentheses, and infix operators, with some arbitrary notation added on > to fake the existence of a stack. I am reminded of this by Thinkit's > after-the-fact "parentheses". I once thought about implementing a "reverse polish" loglan which would be more or less isomorphic to lojban, i.e. all terminators and scope-marking would be implicit in the structure of the grammar *without* using explicit words. There was an exchange on alt.language.artificial which was forwarded to the lojban list a while ago (see http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=krji1t8dhms8k8tuk5562nn7gk5rj7lh0 d%404ax.com ), and though lojbab claims that lojban fits the bill, it's terminators are spoken punctuation marks, I think. I unfortunately haven't had much time to develop it. mu'o mi'e .adam.