From lojbanlists@wonderclown.com Tue Jan 01 08:57:37 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: randy@wonderclown.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 1 Jan 2002 16:57:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 73423 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2002 16:57:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Jan 2002 16:57:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail8.nc.rr.com) (24.93.67.55) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jan 2002 16:57:37 -0000 Received: from aerosol ([66.26.254.133]) by mail8.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Tue, 1 Jan 2002 11:57:36 -0500 Received: from rnortman by aerosol with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16LSEK-0000Gz-00 for ; Tue, 01 Jan 2002 11:57:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 11:57:36 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Connectives and Tenses (Was Re: [lojban] Logical connective question.) Message-ID: <20020101165735.GB568@aerosol> References: <20020101163403.GA568@aerosol> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020101163403.GA568@aerosol> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i Sender: Randall Nortman Return-Path: randy@wonderclown.com From: "randl. nortmn." X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=91794573 X-Yahoo-Profile: uyndrklaun On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 11:34:03AM -0500, randl. nortmn. wrote: [...] > In other words, A is fully dependent on B and vice versa. So of the > four possible combinations of the truth of A and B, two are possible > and two are not. The operator does not make any assertion as to which > of the two possible combinations are actually true; merely that one or > the other is true, and the others are not. (In particular, I would > think that use of this operator leaves open the possibility that over > time, A and B may oscillate between the two allowable states but never > enter the disallowed states, at least within the time and space > intervals supplied in the tense of the selbri, if any.) [...] Sorry, the tense wouldn't be attached to either of the selbri in this case, it would be attached to the connective itself. I don't see any examples of using a space or time interval with the connectives in the reference grammar, but I don't see any reason why it would be disallowed, and I'm pretty sure it would have the meaning I describe above. Please correct me if I'm wrong. co'omi'e randl.