From xod@sixgirls.org Fri Jan 04 14:08:52 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 4 Jan 2002 22:08:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 57385 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 22:08:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2002 22:08:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (216.27.131.50) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 22:08:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g04M8mT29601 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:08:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:08:47 -0500 (EST) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: cmavo index? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1138703 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, buzzwyrd wrote: > --- In lojban@y..., Invent Yourself wrote: > > > There is so much broken Lojban floating around that automatic entry > > would be a problem. There's been lots of talk of an > > example database, however. Search the Wiki for Dictionary stuff. > > > > Personally, I think a good parser (and better yet, with a glosser) is > very helpful to me. The machine gives objective and unrelenting > feedback. And it could separate wheat from chaff of broken lojban. > Examples with grammatical errors could be automatically annotated in > the database. There is ungrammatical Lojban, but there are also prolix, redundant, malglico, mistaken, and culturally-incorrect Lojbans, the latter being cases where the community decided upon a certain usage but the sentence in question violates this oral tradition. Unfortunately for you newbies, none of us have seen fit to compile a short, clear list of these cases, thanks in part to laziness but also a terror of poking the hornet's nest and triggering megabytes of rambling, bilingual arguments that usually end at a draw. Feel free to read the list archives for a peak month to see what I'm talking about. In fact, several newbies have emerged during the lull in these debates, and I won't hesitate to conclude causality from that correlation! And in light of this, I am going to post my recent insight into the nature of "ni" on jboske (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jboske/) instead of here. -- The tao that can be tar(1)ed is not the entire Tao. The path that can be specified is not the Full Path.