From xod@sixgirls.org Fri Jan 04 14:58:23 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 4 Jan 2002 22:58:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 10502 invoked from network); 4 Jan 2002 22:58:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m6.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Jan 2002 22:58:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (216.27.131.50) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2002 22:58:20 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g04MwJW02899 for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:58:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:58:18 -0500 (EST) To: Subject: je (was: crdlus. critique) In-Reply-To: <20020104224611.GD1109@twcny.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1138703 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Rob Speer wrote: > Person: PICK UP A BIG RED BLOCK. > la prenu: ko lafti da poi barda ke xunre bliku > > {barda je xunre}. In fact, since I believe that {je} isn't used nearly > enough, leading to the slightly malglico habit of using tanru for > adjectives (remember, {blanu je zdani} is much more specific than > {blanu zdani}), I'd go as far as {barda je xunre je bliku}. Remember that je is symmetrical. I would agree with barda je xunre bliku, but not barda je xunre je bliku. > Computer: THE BLUE PYRAMID AND THE BLUE BLOCK. > la skami: .i le blanu jipkubli .e le blanu kurkubli > > Same here. I'd say {blanu je jipkubli}, unless the computer is > deliberately trying to seem friendlier with informal usage. It is more of a jipkubli than a blanu, pe'i. I wouldn't use a je here. je-mania! > The tanru-for-adjective problem is one that shows up in many people's > Lojban, including my own. I'm sure that what I have of Flatland includes > several instances of je-phobia. But let's leave it out where it adds no meaning; it's another syllable. > Computer interrupting: SORRY, I DON'T KNOW THE WORD "STEEPLE". > .i la skami: ta'a .u'uki'a. mi na te smuni lo'u masyji'o le'u > > Nice. This is very Lojbanic. I wouldn't have thought of using {mi na te > smuni}. .ie carmi nelci -- The tao that can be tar(1)ed is not the entire Tao. The path that can be specified is not the Full Path.