From rob@twcny.rr.com Sun Jan 06 21:21:50 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 7 Jan 2002 05:21:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 10464 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2002 05:21:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2002 05:21:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout6-0.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.177) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 05:21:48 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-1 [24.92.226.139]) by mailout6-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with ESMTP id g075Llu05253 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 00:21:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from riff ([24.92.246.4]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 00:21:46 -0500 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16NSEF-0000TH-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 00:21:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 00:21:47 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] New file uploaded to lojban Message-ID: <20020107052147.GA1798@twcny.rr.com> References: <20020107040243.GB1529@twcny.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2572649 X-Yahoo-Profile: squeekybobo On Sun, Jan 06, 2002 at 11:29:15PM -0500, Craig wrote: > >Many of these can't even appear without pauses, like "f-ui" or "ai-oi". > > la .naioin. would be a valid cmene, as would la fuin., so yes, they can > appear without pauses. All right, but these are not exactly common Lojban words. In most text-to-speech programs, you're lucky if it can pronounce your name at all. Here, if we treat these as series of diphones, it may sound a bit labored when the computer says it but it will at least be correct pronunciation. {fuin} would be (f-u) (u-i) (i-n). {naioin} would be (n-a) (a-i) (i-o) (o-i) (i-n) - imagine the cmavo 'ai', 'io', and 'oi' being flowed together. I think this is an acceptable tradeoff to make in order to cut the number of speech samples required in about half. -- la rab.spir noi seiarji zo guioimri