From xod@sixgirls.org Thu Jan 17 09:32:06 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 17 Jan 2002 17:32:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 30759 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2002 17:32:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m8.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Jan 2002 17:32:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (216.27.131.50) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2002 17:32:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g0HHW3k20697; Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:32:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 12:32:03 -0500 (EST) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: umlauts (was: Re: timezones for talking and speling (was Re: [lojban] on the fone?)) In-Reply-To: <02011718324600.01010@linux> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1138703 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, [utf-8] Bj=C3=B6rn Gohla wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 17 January 2002 15:34, Invent Yourself wrote: > > Macintoshes have always made it very easy to enter umlauts. It is very > > hard to find a font that lacks the characters, and all applications > > observe the same, standard key combinations for entering them. On Windo= ws > > and Linux, I have never been able to get anything but 7 bit characters = off > > the keyboard, and I'm sure every app has its own keyboard shortcuts for > > them, as they reinvent their own shortcuts for everything else. > well, using x window it is easy to type characters that are not on your > keyboeard. kcharselect for instance lets you select any letter in a font = and > copy it to any x client via the clipboard. the bare console probably is > another matter. however being a unix user in germany i put together my ow= n x > keymap that is mostly the us keymap but has umlauts on otherwise unused k= eys. Requiring clipboard isn't "easy"; a standard key combination is easy. Does kcharselect come standard in KDE? Fiddling with xkeymaps (and only being able to work from your own, customized machine) isn't easy either. These are simple things that the chaos of open source will never provide. --=20 The tao that can be tar(1)ed is not the entire Tao. The path that can be specified is not the Full Path.