From ragnarok@pobox.com Mon Jan 28 17:04:16 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 29 Jan 2002 01:04:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 13900 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2002 01:04:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Jan 2002 01:04:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.250) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 01:04:16 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.98] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A4E0156D0150; Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:03:28 -0500 To: "lojban" Subject: RE: [lojban] Bible translation style question Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:04:15 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <02012819380934.30016@neofelis> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" Reply-To: X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=48763382 X-Yahoo-Profile: kreig_daniyl >> >Or, similarly, while Lojban grammar makes VSO order inherently marked, >> >SVO and SOV orders are equally unmarked, yet there is a widespread >> >preference in current usage for SVO, >> >> I use SOV whenever it would be as clear as the SVO (there are times when it >> wouldn't, but they are not all that frequent) >Should sentences of the form {la b cusku lu" dzadza dzadzadza "li'u la c} be >worded as {la b lu" dzadza dzadzadza "li'u la c cusku} or {la b lu" dzadza >dzadzadza "li'u cusku la c}? It is a matter of personal style. I have used both, but I prefer "la b. lu dzadza dzadzadza li'u la c. cu cusku". However, I would prefer "mi broda da poi brode" over "mi da poi brode cu broda", because for some brode it can get difficult for the listener. Interestingly, the Lojban NIALL dictionary I am training shows a preference for SOV, when its utterances parse. --la kreig.daniyl. 'ro temci lo menli cu nibli' xy.sy. gubmau ckiku nacycme: 0x5C3A1E74