From phma@webjockey.net Tue Jan 29 18:49:55 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 30 Jan 2002 02:49:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 71024 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2002 02:49:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2002 02:49:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (208.150.110.21) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2002 02:49:54 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 6C1543C507; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:44:20 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Subject: Re: [lojban] Bible translation style question Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 21:44:15 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: X-Spamtrap: fesmri@ixazon.dynip.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0201292144150L.27100@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@webjockey.net X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=92712300 On Tuesday 29 January 2002 20:52, Craig wrote: > to summarize the sporadic but relevant bits of Anthony Fox's _Linguistic > Reconstruction: an Introduction to Theory and Method_: SVO languages are > more likely to be prepositional; SOV tend to be postpositional. OV tend to > be agglutinative, with (C)CV syllable structure, vowel harmony, and pitch > accent, while VO tend to be inflecting. OV languages have adjectives before > nouns, VO have them after. Verb-final languages will have a case system. > This gives us the following for the two styles: > > Pro-SVO: prepositional (1) > Anti-SVO: isolating, adjectives before nouns. (2) > Pro-SOV: CCV syllables, adjectives before nouns. (2) > Anti-SOV: prepositional, isolating, no pitch accent, no vowel harmony, no > cases. (5) What do you mean by "adjectives before nouns", since nouns in Lojban can't be modified by anything, and there is no such thing as an adjective? I suppose you are talking about a tanru, which is a compound verb, and saying that the modifier comes first. But this should be compared with other languages in which two verbs form a compound, or two nouns, not an adjective modifying a noun. phma