From araizen@newmail.net Wed Jan 30 09:38:00 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 30 Jan 2002 17:37:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 79760 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2002 17:37:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Jan 2002 17:37:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO enigma.barak.net.il) (212.150.48.99) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2002 17:37:59 -0000 Received: from out.newmail.net ([10.10.11.11]) by enigma.barak.net.il (InterMail vK.4.03.00.00 201-232-121 license 5444ddd44659357c6c93343e0ce38507) with SMTP id <20020130173902.DRAD1829.enigma@out.newmail.net> for ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:39:02 +0200 Received: from default ([62.0.180.144]) by out.newmail.net ; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:39:05 +0200 Message-ID: <057b01c1a9b4$f46bd6c0$90b4003e@default> To: "lojban" References: Subject: Re: [lojban] Bible translation style question Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 19:38:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 From: "Adam Raizen" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3063669 X-Yahoo-Profile: araizen la .and cusku di'e > Where I do see a SAE bias is, say, in the choice among the following: > > 1. lo broda cu brode > 2. da broda gi'e brode > 3. da ge broda gi brode > > These are equivalent, but the first is the most favoured and the last the > least. Why is that? Because the languages we are familiar with tend > to prefer to subordinate into NPs (by shifting "broda" into a sumti) rather > than coordinate or similar. And likewise, we are relatively unused to forethought connectives. Also, 1 is a statement about a broda, whereas 2 and 3 are two statements about something, so they may be relevant in different circumstances. Maybe thinking about brodas instead of da's is a SAE bias. mu'o mi'e .adam.