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Subject: Re: UI for 'possible' (was: Re: [lojban] Bible translation style question)
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From: And Rosta <arosta@uclan.ac.uk>
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Xod:
#On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, And Rosta wrote:
#> Indeed not. 'ui' is an expression of emotion; an uttered smile. 'Sei
#> gleki' is a metalinguistic comment that is propositional in nature but
#> does not contribute to the truth conditions of the sentence.
#
#And ui, while not propositional (because the definition of "propositional"
#used on this list is completely arbitrary),=20

AFAIK the definition used on this list is the usual one =3D "has a truth va=
lue".

#doesn't necessarily affect the truth value.=20

The prototypical UI doesn't affect it at all, though of course the selmaho
includes some that do affect truth values.

#And, to utter "sei gleki" is an expression of an emotional state.

Assuming that like me you are maintaining a terminological distinction=20
between "expression" and "description", then "sei gleki" describes a=20
state of happiness but does not intrinsically express a state of happiness;
"ui" is the exact opposite.

--And.