From xod@sixgirls.org Fri Feb 01 10:33:57 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 1 Feb 2002 18:33:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 30526 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2002 18:33:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Feb 2002 18:33:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (216.27.131.50) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Feb 2002 18:33:56 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.6+3.4W/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g11IXtD08093 for ; Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:33:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2002 13:33:54 -0500 (EST) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] utterances In-Reply-To: <17e.3012288.298c232e@aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1138703 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 BestATN@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2002-02-01 4:26:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, > lojban@yahoogroups.com writes: > > > > The problem, I think, > > comes from seeing '.ui' as an utterance just because it is audible. You can > > hear a sigh, but it is not an utterance. '.ui' is like that. > > > > --la kreig.daniyl. > > > > then what IS a sigh, if not an utterance? how do you define 'utterance'? > steven lytle Given the sacred axiom that UI has no truth value, every surrounding definition will be distorted to maintain the faith. First "proposition", and now "utterance". -- The tao that can be tar(1)ed is not the entire Tao. The path that can be specified is not the Full Path.