From BestATN@aol.com Sat Feb 02 07:00:29 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: BestATN@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_1_3); 2 Feb 2002 15:00:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 53397 invoked from network); 2 Feb 2002 15:00:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Feb 2002 15:00:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r10.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.106) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Feb 2002 15:00:28 -0000 Received: from BestATN@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.26.) id r.88.13421c9c (17379) for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2002 10:00:26 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <88.13421c9c.298d590a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 10:00:26 EST Subject: utterances; UI To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_88.13421c9c.298d590a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10556 From: BestATN@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1155066 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbaner --part1_88.13421c9c.298d590a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1) utterances are the top level of loglan grammar and subsume everything that is loglan under that name. relevent? maybe not, since lojban uses "text" instead. 2) i consider a sigh to be more an utterance than, say, a smile or a frown (though both have meaning), and a LOT more than a burp or belch (even though these are audible). as to how to spell a sigh, i just use *sigh*. *sigh* 3) as for the truth values of UI, i side with the no-truth-value-ers, though i can see the point about smoke lying. Steven Lytle --part1_88.13421c9c.298d590a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 1) utterances are the top level of loglan grammar and subsume everything that is loglan under that name.  relevent?  maybe not, since lojban uses "text" instead.
2) i consider a sigh to be more an utterance than, say, a smile or a frown (though both have meaning), and a LOT more than a burp or belch (even though these are audible).  as to how to spell a sigh, i just use *sigh*.     *sigh*
3) as for the truth values of UI, i side with the no-truth-value-ers, though i can see the point about smoke lying.
Steven Lytle --part1_88.13421c9c.298d590a_boundary--