From rob@twcny.rr.com Tue Feb 12 16:07:15 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 13 Feb 2002 00:07:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 33517 invoked from network); 13 Feb 2002 00:07:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Feb 2002 00:07:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout6.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.177) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2002 00:07:13 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-0 [24.92.226.74]) by mailout6.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.6/Road Runner 1.12) with ESMTP id g1D07Cu15764 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:07:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from riff ([24.92.246.4]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:07:09 -0500 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16amx5-0000R9-00 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:07:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:07:11 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Non-logical AND in Tanru? Message-ID: <20020213000711.GC1661@twcny.rr.com> References: <0202120754330S.16980@neofelis> <20020212230120.GA805@twcny.rr.com> <0202121836430V.16980@neofelis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0202121836430V.16980@neofelis> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2572649 X-Yahoo-Profile: squeekybobo On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 07:54:33AM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Monday 11 February 2002 22:54, Rob Speer wrote: > > [moved off of the beginners list; it no longer belongs there] > > > > Okay. Irrespective of how you intepret {finpe je mirli}: > > > > 1. Would you say that {lo finpe .e lo mirli cu finpe je mirli}? > > No. lo finpe .e lo mirli cu finpe ja mirli. > > > 2a. If so, since .e is rather well defined, would you then accept that > > {lo finpe cu finpe je mirli}? > > 2b. If not, what does {lo finpe je mirli} refer to? > > No such animal. ro finpe naku mirli. I suppose that a lot of context is missing now that I've moved this to the other list. What Pierre and pycyn said is what I believe too. I want to see how thanatos, and perhaps others, justify their position that "I hunt fish and deer" is "mi kalte lo finpe je mirli", given those questions. -- la rab.spir noi sarji zo gumri