From a.rosta@ntlworld.com Thu Feb 14 14:40:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@ntlworld.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 14 Feb 2002 22:40:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 91320 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2002 22:40:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Feb 2002 22:40:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta03-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.43) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2002 22:40:45 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.253.86.231]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020214224043.UZBR305.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:40:43 +0000 To: "lojban" Subject: RE: [lojban] [OT]Argumentum ad elephantum Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:39:43 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=77248971 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin Xod: > > You are in effect saying that the narrator is claiming that the text has > > the status of a historical document. I can't think of another context > > in which you could say he is claiming objective knowledge. Ordinary > > stories and fables aren't claims; they're just descriptions, whose > > truth is unimportant. > > I never meant that the narrator intends that there actually was an > elephant and six blind men. I meant that in the context of the story, > inasmuch as the six blind men are wrong, the narrator is right about the > creature being an elephant. But this is a story that the narrator is not a part of. There is no identifiable or discernible narrator at all. In other words, "in the context of the story" there is no narrator. --And.