From cowan@ccil.org Thu Feb 14 19:34:05 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 15 Feb 2002 03:34:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 18219 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2002 03:34:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Feb 2002 03:34:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Feb 2002 03:34:05 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16bZ8b-0000i2-00 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:34:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [lojban] [OT]Argumentum ad elephantum In-Reply-To: from And Rosta at "Feb 14, 2002 10:39:48 pm" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 22:34:17 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=212516 X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan And Rosta scripsit: > I understand this argument, but unless the omniscient narrator is > subjectivized (so that we perceive a narratorial point of view), > I dispute that every tale implies a teller. I quite agree. See previous posting. -- John Cowan http://www.ccil.org/~cowan cowan@ccil.org To say that Bilbo's breath was taken away is no description at all. There are no words left to express his staggerment, since Men changed the language that they learned of elves in the days when all the world was wonderful. --_The Hobbit_