From thanatos@dim.com Sat Feb 16 14:56:06 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: thanatos@dim.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 16 Feb 2002 22:56:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 55350 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2002 22:56:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Feb 2002 22:56:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO supernova.dimensional.com) (206.124.0.11) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2002 22:56:06 -0000 Received: from p44.3c04.pm.dimcom.net (p44.3c04.pm.dimcom.net [206.124.3.204]) by supernova.dimensional.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id g1GMu4X10908 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2002 15:56:05 -0700 (MST) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] Non-logical AND in Tanru? Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 16:01:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: <16c.8f0d896.299fcc77@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <16c.8f0d896.299fcc77@aol.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: EWC X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=45881577 X-Yahoo-Profile: thandim2000 On Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:53:43 EST, pycyn@aol.com wrote: >But the=20 >ones I was mainly focusing on were ones like {cmalu xanto} where the objec= t=20 >that is the {cmalu} cannot be isolated from the {xanto}, without problems;= =20 Well, in a contrived example, if we were sorting our menagerie into two groups, one with a large number of total animals and one with a small number of total animals, the way in which the elephant is cmalu may be that it belongs to the smaller group.=20=20 >that is, the broda does have its places filled implicitly but not in=20 >isolation. I took the isolation claim to be the likely next step in your= =20 >reasoning and wanted to stop it beforehand. The places of broda are filled by zo'e, which draws from a larger context than just the current bridi, as does the co'e implicit in the tanru. We're still claiming {ta poi xanto cu co'e zo'e poi cmalu} implicitly with {ta cmalu xanto}, though. --=20 EWC