From pycyn@aol.com Mon Feb 18 17:40:29 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 19 Feb 2002 01:40:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 85856 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2002 01:40:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m4.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2002 01:40:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r06.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.102) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2002 01:40:28 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.bf.1b9d48d1 (4541) for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 20:40:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 20:40:24 EST Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [loglanists] Sets To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bf.1b9d48d1.29a30708_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 118 From: pycyn@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=2455001 X-Yahoo-Profile: kaliputra --part1_bf.1b9d48d1.29a30708_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2002 7:20:35 PM Central Standard Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes: > >This clash can be resolved in one of two ways: decide that "All swans > >are white" has no existential import either, or decide that "For all X > >etc." is not a fully adequate mapping of "All swans etc." > >Lojban takes the second view, > > Not my dialect of Lojban! For me {ro broda naku} is equivalent to > {naku su'o broda}, which would fail if {ro broda} had existential > import. > Damn! Couldn't you let me think this blister had been pricked for five fing minutes? --part1_bf.1b9d48d1.29a30708_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/18/2002 7:20:35 PM Central Standard Time, jjllambias@hotmail.com writes:


>This clash can be resolved in one of two ways:  decide that "All swans
>are white" has no existential import either, or decide that "For all X
>etc." is not a fully adequate mapping of "All swans etc."
>Lojban takes the second view,

Not my dialect of Lojban! For me {ro broda naku} is equivalent to
{naku su'o broda}, which would fail if {ro broda} had existential
import.


Damn!  Couldn't you let me think this blister had been pricked for five fing minutes? --part1_bf.1b9d48d1.29a30708_boundary--