From BestATN@aol.com Tue Feb 19 13:43:45 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: BestATN@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 19 Feb 2002 21:43:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 97755 invoked from network); 19 Feb 2002 21:43:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.172) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Feb 2002 21:43:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d07.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.39) by mta2.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2002 21:43:44 -0000 Received: from BestATN@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id r.135.9a6c565 (4406) for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:43:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <135.9a6c565.29a42108@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:43:36 EST Subject: "the" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_135.9a6c565.29a42108_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10556 From: BestATN@aol.com X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1155066 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbaner --part1_135.9a6c565.29a42108_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday 18 February 2002 15:52, John Cowan wrote: > Edward Cherlin scripsit: > > > But the poem is self-undermining, > > > because of the existence of an authorial voice who uses "the > > > Elephant" =3D lobi'e xanto, and says "all of them are wrong". > > > > I don't see how we can insist that he says more than "le xanto". > > Because English "the" implies veridicality.=A0 "The man was a woman" > is just not sound English. of course it IS perfectly sound english.=20=20 steven lytle --part1_135.9a6c565.29a42108_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday 18 February 2002 15:52, John Cowan = wrote:
> Edward Cherlin scripsit:
> > > But the poem is self-undermining,
> > > because of the existence of an authorial voice who uses = "the
> > > Elephant" =3D lobi'e xanto, and says "all of them are wr= ong".
> >
> > I don't see how we can insist that he says more than "le xant= o".
>
> Because English "the" implies veridicality.=A0 "The man was a woma= n"
> is just not sound English.

of course it IS perfectly sound english.  
steven lytle --part1_135.9a6c565.29a42108_boundary--