From araizen@newmail.net Thu Feb 21 16:24:32 2002
Return-Path: <araizen@newmail.net>
X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net
X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com
Received: (EGP: mail-8_0_2); 22 Feb 2002 00:24:32 -0000
Received: (qmail 87591 invoked from network); 22 Feb 2002 00:20:46 -0000
Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171)
  by m10.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Feb 2002 00:20:46 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO mxout2.netvision.net.il) (194.90.9.21)
  by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2002 00:20:45 -0000
Received: from default ([62.0.180.90]) by mxout2.netvision.net.il
  (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Sep 5 2001))
  with SMTP id <0GRW0063TRMJ58@mxout2.netvision.net.il> for
  lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 22 Feb 2002 02:20:45 +0200 (IST)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 02:22:09 +0200
Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [jboske] RE: Anything but tautologies
To: lojban@yahoogroups.com
Message-id: <017501c1bb37$0677e280$5ab4003e@default>
MIME-version: 1.0
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300
Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-priority: Normal
References: <90.21a12c96.29a6c2d2@aol.com>
From: Adam Raizen <araizen@newmail.net>
X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=3063669
X-Yahoo-Profile: araizen

la pycyn. cusku di'e

> > > Then we're missing an important predicate: "x1 maps value x2 to
> > > value x3".
> >
> > That is 'mapti' I think. ('x1 is mapped to x2 by rule/function
x3') Of
> > course, mapti doesn't claim that the mapping is a function, but if
> > that is important then 'fancu mapti' should work.
> >
>
> mapti mat fit 'match' x1 fits/matches/suits/is
> compatible/appropriate/corresponds to/with x2 in property/aspect x3
7j 47
> (cf. satci, tugni, sarxe, drani, tarmi, ckini, mintu)
>
> Not quite exactly -- the tanru suggested is a possibility however.
And the
> others to be compared, especially {sarxe}, and {ckini} might be
useful as
> well.

Since we've been interpreting properties as functions, I think it
works well. 'la barbras mapti la dabias le ka ce'u mamta makau.' What
would you put in the third place that doesn't work? I suppose that the
place structure of at least 'sarxe' and 'ckini' look equally tempting,
but I think 'mapti' looks best. (Though this then brings up the
question, what is the difference between the three.)

mu'o mi'e .adam.