From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Feb 26 11:18:33 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 26 Feb 2002 19:18:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 86618 invoked from network); 26 Feb 2002 19:18:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Feb 2002 19:18:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.223) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2002 19:18:32 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 11:18:32 -0800 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:18:32 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] go'i: repeated referents or just sumti? Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 19:18:32 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Feb 2002 19:18:32.0887 (UTC) FILETIME=[616F4C70:01C1BEFA] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la tanatos cusku di'e >Does {go'i} repeat the referents of the sumti of the previous the bridi >or just the sumti? The referents. (Strictly speaking, the sumti are the referents, but you follow the usual tradition we have here of misusing 'sumti' to refer to the words rather than to the arguments themselves.) >That is, does {le mlatu cu catlu mi. i go'i le >gerku} necessarily refer to the same cats in the second statement or >just another group of {ro le su'o mlatu}? The same cats. Use {go'ira'o} to update referents. >Is > le mlatu cu catlu mi. i go'i le gerku >the same as > le mlatu cu catlu mi. i le mlatu cu catlu le gerku >or > le mlatu cu catlu mi. e le gerku >? The latter. The former as well in most contexts. It would be very bad manners to use a bare {le mlatu} again for a different group of cats. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.