Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [jboske] RE: Anything but tautologies

From: "Jorge Llambias" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:37:37

la pycyn cusku di'e

> > >{1} =df {0'}
> >
> > Is it: {ca'e li pa du li no y'ybu}? Something
> > else?
>
>It certainly would not be your suggestions, since that makes no sense,

:)

>being about a couple of numbers (and so not definable) and a letter (not
>obviously related to anything at all).

There is no letter. {li no y'ybu} is just one number.
I admit I've no idea what {0'} is supposed to be.

>Maybe {ce'a pabu cu basti nobu ce'o
>y'ybu}

pabu is a letter (or 'letteral'), do you mean that?
Or do you mean zo pa? The letteral pabu is not immediately
related to the number pa. And nobu ce'o y'ybu is an
ordered set of two letterals.

>That's the Cowan place structure, yes. One problem is that
>nobody quite knows how to put "ma'o e^x (where x is a
>bound variable representing the argument)" into Lojban.
>And if this is just a text then there is a second problem,
>because it is not the text but the meaning of that text
>that is of interest here.>
>
>This is not obvious, it depends upon what the purpose of the sentence is.
>Cherlin wants it to be a definition, and thus it is exactly text that is
>wanted, needed, possible.

But the text is not the part being defined! It's being used
to define something else (not a text), so not what you
understand as a definition.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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