From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu Feb 28 14:31:17 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 28 Feb 2002 22:31:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 51926 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2002 22:31:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m12.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Feb 2002 22:31:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.235) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Feb 2002 22:31:17 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 14:31:17 -0800 Received: from 200.69.6.23 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:31:16 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [jboske] RE: Anything but tautologies Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:31:16 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Feb 2002 22:31:17.0211 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3229AB0:01C1C0A7] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.6.23] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la pycyn cusku di'e >And what does {ce'o} >have to do with {ce} other than that they begin the same? According to the Lojban lore I have absorbed, {ce'o} is just like {ce} plus an ordering. I will be delighted to find out I'm wrong. So sequences can carry logs? > > >Well, in arithmetic it is primitive, so can't be defined. But {ny ce'o >y'ybu} seems about right. Specifying what it means would be harder. I would have said plain {ny y'ybu} was much better. Why would it be a sequence of two things, however one understands what a sequence is? But I was talking of specifying its meaning, yes, not of how to represent it. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com