From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Mar 01 17:58:49 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 2 Mar 2002 01:58:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 81730 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2002 01:58:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.171) by m11.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Mar 2002 01:58:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.94) by mta3.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2002 01:58:49 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 17:58:49 -0800 Received: from 200.69.6.17 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 02 Mar 2002 01:58:48 GMT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [jboske] Quantifiers, Existential Import, and all that stuff Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2002 01:58:48 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2002 01:58:49.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB720000:01C1C18D] From: "Jorge Llambias" X-Originating-IP: [200.69.6.17] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=6071566 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 la pycyn cusku di'e >He then went on to hold that, since universals don't have >existential import, the {lo broda}, which is {lo ro broda} could work >sometimes even if there were no brodas (I forget what that was supposed to >help with or be aproblem for). I just want to point out that I never said that. {lo broda} is {su'o lo ro broda} and of course it has existential import, from {su'o}, not from {ro}. What I said is that every set has ro members, and this includes the empty set if ro can be zero. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com