From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Tue Mar 05 07:03:31 2002 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: unknown); 5 Mar 2002 15:03:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 60005 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2002 19:54:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.115.97.167) by m9.grp.snv.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Mar 2002 19:54:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta1.grp.snv.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2002 19:54:21 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Mon, 4 Mar 2002 19:27:28 +0000 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:54:14 +0000 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:53:58 +0000 To: lojban Subject: Re: sets, masses, &c. (was: RE: [lojban] Re: [jboske] RE: Anything but tautol... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=810630 X-Yahoo-Profile: andjamin >>> Pierre Abbat 03/04/02 03:05pm >>> #On Monday 04 March 2002 09:50, And Rosta wrote: #> 1. How DO you say "apple" (as in "the bowl was full of apple") in #> Lojban? # #I would say {loi plise marji}. Once established that the apple may not hav= e=20 #been in apple form, I could then refer to it as {lei plise}. Okay, but let me rephrase my question: 1. How DO you say "apple" (as in "the bowl was full of apple") in Lojban, without using inherently vague tanru, and without having to define a lujvo for every such mass term? --And.